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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2011 21:22 
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Since they turned 6 they seem to of had a personality transplant ! its so bad i think i would happily turn back the clock to the 2x terrible 2's and newborn stage ( believe me THAT faze was hard - Sorry fi lol )

They fight, scream, and plan mass destruction, they can tie me up in knots !

In school they are in the supported learning class and both were about to be moved into the higher group as they were doing so well but since xmas they mess about, distract the other kids and deliberately write messy and spell words wrong.

i was called into the school tonight by both of their teachers to tell me they are dropping down a table so now in middle group of SL :( i was mortified !

I try so hard with them, we read every night which they love, we write stories and turn them into books etc yet they have become the devil re-incarnated. Yet i know some parent who dont do anything with their kids and they are flying through school no problems - it seems so unfair !

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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2011 22:30 
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((hugs)) I don't know what to say but didn't want to ignore you...

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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2011 23:16 
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Oh Charlotte I feel for you. You are obviously a very supportive parent and together with the school you will get the boys through this. Thinking of you and sending big (((HUGS))) x

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Aw chick - see now am dreading these twins :lol:
Could their behaviour anything to do with the excitement of Christmas? I know loads of kids who behave like that at home and school all through Dec, and then most of Jan cos they have been over excited. It takes them a while to settle back into school routine. Also could possibly be a wee rebellion against the work at school - maybe too hard or too easy? Worth while chatting to their teachers so see what they suggest to help. Also dont force the reading - it will come. Again although they love books, maybe just fed up with the books in the house, or frustrated due to the lack of independence?
Just offering some suggestions that I have come across in the past with the kids I teach. Hope you get it all sorted soon though :D and suggestions I can offer with regard the education side give me a shout.
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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011 10:19 
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Bless, you must be at the end of your tether! Don't really know what to suggest? I just didn't want to read and run. Lewis has day like this when he is just an absolute little monster too!

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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2011 14:08 
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Oh Charlotte. What a nightmare. It's bad enough with 1 of that age (Kian can be a devil at times too lately), but to have 2, they must bounce off each other!

Are they in the same class at school? I think I remember you saying they were in different ones before, but reading your posts it sounds like they're in the same one :?
Kian is also the joker of the class. He distracts other kids & although he is more than capable of doing the work, he sometimes has to stay back at playtime to finish it because he's been too busy entertaining the others :roll: Since his teacher told us we have decided to try something with him..... He is now not allowed on his ps3 or psp unless he's done all his work in class. We ask the teacher on a Tuesday if he has done all his work well & if he has we let him play his consoles on a Tuesday & Thursday after school for an hour. We ask his teacher on a Friday if he has done all his work & if he has, he gets to play them on the weekend for an hour or so each day. If he doesn't do all his work then he's not allowed to play his consoles at all. This works with Kian because he absolutely loves his video games.

Maybe you could come up with something similar for the boys. Or maybe if there's somewhere they love going you could take them on a weekend if they have done all their work well at school. Maybe get the school involved too & ask them to set up a reward chart for the boys so they get a sticker for each day they do well & when they've got a week full of stickers they get a treat. It's a shame because they're obviously capable of doing it. I often think it maybe because Kian's bored, so maybe it's the same for them. But if they had something to work towards they may be more willing to knuckle down.

I hope they settle back down soon hun xxx

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Thanks everyone :) ( Hayley good to 'see' you again )

Fi, it started before xmas with Thomas he was flying through the class work to the point where his teacher thought he would need to be moved out of supported learning and literally over night it was like he didnt want to try anymore and has slipped further behind. The behavior problem with them both has been more so the last 2 weeks which ties into them having new beds and not going to sleep till 9pm (normally 7pm) so i expect its because they are tired. I think i need to plod on till they settle in their new beds and they start sleeping again.

Lou, it is confusing about the classes lol. In Reception they were in different classes and they still are for registration and project work. Then in the afternoon they go to ability groups and they are both in the same class and its mainly in this class im having problems :(


Actually writing this down has given me an idea, do you think Thomas stopped working because he didn't want to leave Adam ? His teacher was about to move him to the next class as she didn't think he needed supported learning ? :?

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Sounds like a good possibility hun. Have you tried talking to them about it seperately? See what answers they both come up with xx

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I think they have morphed into teenagers bodies at the moment and just shrug their shoulders.

Im going to be stricter at bedtime to get them more sleep and see if that makes a difference. Ive also got parents eve coming up 7th Feb so will speak to the teacher then.

Ive made a home time timetable which sets when is play/dsi time, family time, homework etc to see if that makes an improvement too.

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Charlotte, sounds to me like it is he doesn't want to leave his brother behind. Do they have mixed playtimes - supported learning and the rest of the school? Maybe worth explaining that they can still play together at intervals etc - and that way they will have lots to tell each other when they meet up again :? Have they spent much time apart - that may be a factor as well if not, hence why Thomas reluctant to move, and Adam just picking up on his brothers anxieties or worried himself cos they will be apart.
Def speak to them both, and the teacher at parents night. Do they do annual reviews about the needs of the children - if so have you had theirs yet. If not bring it up at the review as well, other specialists involved may have other ideas.
Another wee idea - ask the teacher about the possibilities of Social stories. These are simple stories that can explain what is happening to the child. So one for Thomas would be about moving out of supported learning, and one for Adam about being apart from his brother. They were initially designed for children with Autism, but are becoming much more commonly used with all children with learning disorders of all kinds. They really work - have a wee hunt on google for them - fairly easy to write yourself if no-one else can help. Carol Gray was original author.
Keep the timetable etc at home, and bedtime back to normal, and hopefully it will all settle down again soon
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